vparam
09-17 08:57 PM
vparam, thanks a lot for sharing the info.
can you please suggest accountant, if its ok with you, residing any place is fine as we deal most of it through ph, having tough time to find the right one just to aid in the start up and maintain min. proceedings like tax filing etc. without having any activity/revenue
I have used the following accountant for years now, The best part is that he is familiar with Immigration issues or gets it validated from an immigration attorney, who sits in the same building.
Please note I am not soliciting for him but reffering him based on request.
George Demergis
Colitsas Thomas & Associates PA
103 Carnegie Centre Suite 309, Princeton, NJ 08540
Phone - 609 452 0889
gdemergis@TCACPA.com
can you please suggest accountant, if its ok with you, residing any place is fine as we deal most of it through ph, having tough time to find the right one just to aid in the start up and maintain min. proceedings like tax filing etc. without having any activity/revenue
I have used the following accountant for years now, The best part is that he is familiar with Immigration issues or gets it validated from an immigration attorney, who sits in the same building.
Please note I am not soliciting for him but reffering him based on request.
George Demergis
Colitsas Thomas & Associates PA
103 Carnegie Centre Suite 309, Princeton, NJ 08540
Phone - 609 452 0889
gdemergis@TCACPA.com
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optimystic
09-10 09:36 PM
HR 5882 has the answer for the FIFO problem.
USCIS is pretty good with approving cased based on PD for 3/4th of the year and in the last quarter they for the "Hail mary" play and DOS gives a wide PD range during the last quarter for USCIS to play. Apart from recapturing wasted visa's HR 5882 also has an automatic recapture provision to avoid any future visa wastage. If this provision is in place then UCSIS/DOS will not be in a position to playing the "some how use up visa by sep 31" card to approve random cases.
Rather than focusing on HR 5882 many are still pondering about LUD's and sill day dreaming. The demand for visa's is much higher than the supply of visa's, it doesn't matter what new spillover policy USCIS adopts, it can only provide incremental improvements. For a quantum improvment in the situation we need a legislation and HR 5882 is the best option we have now.
Good points.
However ...
How many visa numbers will get recaptured if 5882 gets approval and how soon (within this FY09 ? )
How many pending applications are there?
How many new ones accumulating every year?
Are there enough recaptured visas to cover all?
Agreed that with more visa numbers, and no potential threat to wastage of visa numbers, USCIS has no incentive nor tricky cards to play to justify their random approval bursts.....but will that be enough to prevent them from doing so, just because they can? I mean this is USCIS we are talking about.....Even with laws/memos/rules already in place, they are violating them left and right....
Whats to say that they won't try to reassure people that they don't have to worry about out of order processing because
- there are enough visa numbers for all.
- Though people may see delays, they will eventually all get their GCs
- Its faster and easier if they just grab the first box that is on the top of the pile, and approve cases from there rather than spending very limited resources they have to try to dig thru the boxes to find the cases with oldest PD.
- It will just be a minor inconveneince to the applicants...Their waiting times would drastically reduce from several years to only couple of years.
Would that be acceptable to us then?
If they say every body will be current, with free job movement due to EADs, and every body will get GC within 2-3 years absolutely. PERIOD. Just no gaurantees of FIFO processing. --- Would that be acceptable to us then?
USCIS is pretty good with approving cased based on PD for 3/4th of the year and in the last quarter they for the "Hail mary" play and DOS gives a wide PD range during the last quarter for USCIS to play. Apart from recapturing wasted visa's HR 5882 also has an automatic recapture provision to avoid any future visa wastage. If this provision is in place then UCSIS/DOS will not be in a position to playing the "some how use up visa by sep 31" card to approve random cases.
Rather than focusing on HR 5882 many are still pondering about LUD's and sill day dreaming. The demand for visa's is much higher than the supply of visa's, it doesn't matter what new spillover policy USCIS adopts, it can only provide incremental improvements. For a quantum improvment in the situation we need a legislation and HR 5882 is the best option we have now.
Good points.
However ...
How many visa numbers will get recaptured if 5882 gets approval and how soon (within this FY09 ? )
How many pending applications are there?
How many new ones accumulating every year?
Are there enough recaptured visas to cover all?
Agreed that with more visa numbers, and no potential threat to wastage of visa numbers, USCIS has no incentive nor tricky cards to play to justify their random approval bursts.....but will that be enough to prevent them from doing so, just because they can? I mean this is USCIS we are talking about.....Even with laws/memos/rules already in place, they are violating them left and right....
Whats to say that they won't try to reassure people that they don't have to worry about out of order processing because
- there are enough visa numbers for all.
- Though people may see delays, they will eventually all get their GCs
- Its faster and easier if they just grab the first box that is on the top of the pile, and approve cases from there rather than spending very limited resources they have to try to dig thru the boxes to find the cases with oldest PD.
- It will just be a minor inconveneince to the applicants...Their waiting times would drastically reduce from several years to only couple of years.
Would that be acceptable to us then?
If they say every body will be current, with free job movement due to EADs, and every body will get GC within 2-3 years absolutely. PERIOD. Just no gaurantees of FIFO processing. --- Would that be acceptable to us then?
newbie2020
05-02 07:22 AM
I watched the video and One of the things I noticed was the difficulty the State dept is facing to keep the numbers within limitation so they tend to achieve 90%-95% because the legislative limitation doesn't allow them to go beyond even by few numbers
When i compare the same situation with that of an IPO of a company. Typically a company coming out with an IPO will have certain number of shares authorized to sell, In addition to that they also reserve certain small number in addition to these to accommodate any excess shares issued by the underwriters.
Why don't we have some numbers similar to that. This would make the life of the State dept much easier.
Any thoughts
When i compare the same situation with that of an IPO of a company. Typically a company coming out with an IPO will have certain number of shares authorized to sell, In addition to that they also reserve certain small number in addition to these to accommodate any excess shares issued by the underwriters.
Why don't we have some numbers similar to that. This would make the life of the State dept much easier.
Any thoughts
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desi485
12-02 05:45 PM
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My address that they had on file was also an old one, from 2 years ago. I have since moved, and done the online AR15 thing and received my EAD at the new address, so I'm not sure why/how the system showed the old address.
...
Apologies for the long post, but I thought that my tale might help someone that is getting anxious over a similar situation.
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Thanks,
axp817,
I am guessing that your EAD was driven by the address which you provided while applying for it. CIS may not confirm what's on file, when there is already an address mentioned in application itself.
also, thankyou so much for sharing updates with rest of us. This may be useful to someone in similar situation in future.
Best wishes for your trip abroad. :)
My address that they had on file was also an old one, from 2 years ago. I have since moved, and done the online AR15 thing and received my EAD at the new address, so I'm not sure why/how the system showed the old address.
...
Apologies for the long post, but I thought that my tale might help someone that is getting anxious over a similar situation.
...
Thanks,
axp817,
I am guessing that your EAD was driven by the address which you provided while applying for it. CIS may not confirm what's on file, when there is already an address mentioned in application itself.
also, thankyou so much for sharing updates with rest of us. This may be useful to someone in similar situation in future.
Best wishes for your trip abroad. :)
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diptam
08-08 11:00 AM
Lets all try to send this letter. I'm working with my HR to get this 7001 out - As Pappu said there should not be any reason why HR wont sign that form.
What's going on at NSC or TSC is Shame.... Peoples who applied in AUG-SEP 07 has got 140 approved at NSC where as folks back in APR-JUNE 07 is stuck and more over NSC claims that they are processing MAR 22 07 for last 5 months.
This deserves attention - I'm trying to ratchet up some pressure via Congressman and Senator's office but they are very busy these days with Presidential election , so i'm not getting the kind of help that they generally do.
FYI:
Here is a quote from an email i received from the Ombudsman's office:
"Our office is in fact at this time actively probing the I-140 situation you describe generally."
This was in response to an e-mail i sent them, describing the situation (my wife's I-140 from April 2008 got approved before mine, which was submitted, you guessed it, on July 2007)
So maybe there's some hope here, who knows.
What's going on at NSC or TSC is Shame.... Peoples who applied in AUG-SEP 07 has got 140 approved at NSC where as folks back in APR-JUNE 07 is stuck and more over NSC claims that they are processing MAR 22 07 for last 5 months.
This deserves attention - I'm trying to ratchet up some pressure via Congressman and Senator's office but they are very busy these days with Presidential election , so i'm not getting the kind of help that they generally do.
FYI:
Here is a quote from an email i received from the Ombudsman's office:
"Our office is in fact at this time actively probing the I-140 situation you describe generally."
This was in response to an e-mail i sent them, describing the situation (my wife's I-140 from April 2008 got approved before mine, which was submitted, you guessed it, on July 2007)
So maybe there's some hope here, who knows.
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orangutan
09-30 10:04 PM
Probably those cars are of the people (GC applicants) who came to count the TSC employees cars.:D:D:D
Yea..I saw many at parking lot but all junk cars.:p
Yea..I saw many at parking lot but all junk cars.:p
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onemaveric
07-24 04:23 PM
Hey,
I went to the VA DMV in Sterling yesterday and the person there refused to renew my DL based on my original H1B extension extension RECEIPT Notice, saying there is no 'Date' on this document. :mad: These ppl are too dumb. It says clearly on DMV's website - they will give you a 1 yr extension IF there is no date on that document. Need to take a lawyer and paralegal along next time... :confused:
BTW, how did you manage to do this??
I am travelling on the same boat too. I checked with one of the DMVs in VA and they were not ready to accept the H1 extn. receipt notice. I am planning to convert my application to processing.
Let us know if u have any updates for people like us.
Thanks.
I went to the VA DMV in Sterling yesterday and the person there refused to renew my DL based on my original H1B extension extension RECEIPT Notice, saying there is no 'Date' on this document. :mad: These ppl are too dumb. It says clearly on DMV's website - they will give you a 1 yr extension IF there is no date on that document. Need to take a lawyer and paralegal along next time... :confused:
BTW, how did you manage to do this??
I am travelling on the same boat too. I checked with one of the DMVs in VA and they were not ready to accept the H1 extn. receipt notice. I am planning to convert my application to processing.
Let us know if u have any updates for people like us.
Thanks.
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a1b2c3
08-17 12:34 AM
Looking at the recent approvals looks like USCIS does the following:
1. Pick up x number of files using a random algorithm.
2. Arrange these files in a random order using the same random algorithm
followed in step 1.
3. Randomly pick any file arranged in step 2.
4. Toss a coin.
5. On odd dates if it is heads,approve the file. On even dates if it is tails
approve it.
6. If file is not approved in step 5 put it on the shelf to be picked up
in step 1 in next cycle.
I can only hope you are wrong :). I hope they sort first by PD and then by RP.
1. Pick up x number of files using a random algorithm.
2. Arrange these files in a random order using the same random algorithm
followed in step 1.
3. Randomly pick any file arranged in step 2.
4. Toss a coin.
5. On odd dates if it is heads,approve the file. On even dates if it is tails
approve it.
6. If file is not approved in step 5 put it on the shelf to be picked up
in step 1 in next cycle.
I can only hope you are wrong :). I hope they sort first by PD and then by RP.
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diptam
08-06 08:59 AM
I'm finding it hard in getting the 7001 from employer - they are saying that its not our pplicy to nag USCIS on matters like I-140 stuck for 16 months. Basically they are very happy that i'm stuck and they can continue siphoning fat chunk of my billing ..... but they never say it that way, always say nice and good things on my face.
what to do ? Shall i send only the letter to Ombudsman ? While working with Local congressman's office i sent a letter and they allowed me to sign consent form on behalf of my employer. I mean my employer was supposed to sign the consent form but CM's office knows employers will never sign so they got around it just to help me.
Can we do something like that here - sign on the 7001 and write "on behalf of the employer " ???
Raydon, thanks for expressing your situation. But I still feel we are not requesting TSC to expedite our cases. All we are asking his, please do justice to us and follow the FIFO for the I-140 petitions. TSC has been consistently approving cases filed in recently and just continuing to ignore our cases. If you can explain your attorney, I am sure he will understand. Or atleast have him, fill out form 7001 on your behalf and send his own letter explaining the situation to Ombudsman's office.
I understand that I-140 is employer petition, but it ulitmately belongs to you. So you need to do whatever you can do some how convince your employer or attorney to assist you one time. I-485 is your petition, and you do not need any consent, if you need to send a letter to Ombudsman's office. So please try your best and see if you can mail the form & letter to Ombudsman's office.
what to do ? Shall i send only the letter to Ombudsman ? While working with Local congressman's office i sent a letter and they allowed me to sign consent form on behalf of my employer. I mean my employer was supposed to sign the consent form but CM's office knows employers will never sign so they got around it just to help me.
Can we do something like that here - sign on the 7001 and write "on behalf of the employer " ???
Raydon, thanks for expressing your situation. But I still feel we are not requesting TSC to expedite our cases. All we are asking his, please do justice to us and follow the FIFO for the I-140 petitions. TSC has been consistently approving cases filed in recently and just continuing to ignore our cases. If you can explain your attorney, I am sure he will understand. Or atleast have him, fill out form 7001 on your behalf and send his own letter explaining the situation to Ombudsman's office.
I understand that I-140 is employer petition, but it ulitmately belongs to you. So you need to do whatever you can do some how convince your employer or attorney to assist you one time. I-485 is your petition, and you do not need any consent, if you need to send a letter to Ombudsman's office. So please try your best and see if you can mail the form & letter to Ombudsman's office.
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vinabath
07-20 12:36 PM
Guys,
The calculations below is not to scare anyone but it may very well a reality. Based on the assumptions below, some people may have to wait up to 20 months to get a EAD card: Ouch!
A Total I-485 Applicants: 750000 Applicants
B Each EAD processing time: 5 Minutes
C Total processing hrs: 62500 Hours
(Calculations: AxB/60)
D Daily productive Hours: 5 Hours
(It is a government body!)
E Total Man Days (Business Days): 12500 Man Days
(Calculations: C/D)
F EAD Workforce: 30 People
G Total Business Days: 417 Days
(Calculations: E/F)
H Average Business Days in a month: 21 Days
I Total Clearing Time : 20 Months
(Calculations: G/I)
I will cut no of EAD applications to 600,000.
USCIS can always use contractors with our revenue to complete the work.
But you are absolutely right. If they dont add temp resources with this extra revenue, we will be waiting for atleast an year to get EAD and AP.
The calculations below is not to scare anyone but it may very well a reality. Based on the assumptions below, some people may have to wait up to 20 months to get a EAD card: Ouch!
A Total I-485 Applicants: 750000 Applicants
B Each EAD processing time: 5 Minutes
C Total processing hrs: 62500 Hours
(Calculations: AxB/60)
D Daily productive Hours: 5 Hours
(It is a government body!)
E Total Man Days (Business Days): 12500 Man Days
(Calculations: C/D)
F EAD Workforce: 30 People
G Total Business Days: 417 Days
(Calculations: E/F)
H Average Business Days in a month: 21 Days
I Total Clearing Time : 20 Months
(Calculations: G/I)
I will cut no of EAD applications to 600,000.
USCIS can always use contractors with our revenue to complete the work.
But you are absolutely right. If they dont add temp resources with this extra revenue, we will be waiting for atleast an year to get EAD and AP.
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EB3_SEP04
05-18 01:58 PM
ind_game, just a heads up : when the 485 is reopened they take the op'ty to review the app for all supporting docs. meaning if you have not submitted any supporting docs like birth cert etc they would issue an RFE. They did to me, back in Jul-07 i had submitted only parents affidavit but no BC or NABC. And they gave me only 30 days (i think it used be 90 days for RFE), I had hard time collecting the required info/doc in such a short time.
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msp1976
12-15 12:58 PM
Here are the details:
Type: EB2 - RIR (State - CT)
PD: June 2004
45 DL Received: December 2005
Current Status: CERTIFIED (On 12/15/2006) per DOL website.
Can anyone tell me what happens next?
You should receive the approval papers in a few weeks...
In case you donot, you have to follow up with PBEC...
If you donot get anywhere with that followup, there are some people who filed I-140s without the actual paper. In that case the USCIS sends a RFE to the PBEC.....
Type: EB2 - RIR (State - CT)
PD: June 2004
45 DL Received: December 2005
Current Status: CERTIFIED (On 12/15/2006) per DOL website.
Can anyone tell me what happens next?
You should receive the approval papers in a few weeks...
In case you donot, you have to follow up with PBEC...
If you donot get anywhere with that followup, there are some people who filed I-140s without the actual paper. In that case the USCIS sends a RFE to the PBEC.....
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langagadu
09-15 11:01 AM
Whay are you jealous of people who are porting? Why can't people go from EB3-EB2?
This is different from the Labour substituation, if a person filed in EB-3 in 2001and gained 7 years of experience, if the company is promoting him to the next higher position, it is very much acceptable for USCIS to promote his EB-3to EB-2.
I don't think USCIS will not give any shit to anything you are trying.
Once you have approved I-140, that date is your's buddy. Jealousy suckers.
So what you are saying is, everytime you apply for a I-140, all your previous I-140's should be dropped. Is that you want. Do you realize they can not do this as an Admin fix?
So basically you want to get Green card and be happy and everybody else should die in the f***** queue.
WHY DON'T YOU USE THIS F****** ENERGY FOR SUPPORTING (EMAILS, CALLS TO THE SENETAORS) THE RE CAPTURE BILLS.
People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
This is different from the Labour substituation, if a person filed in EB-3 in 2001and gained 7 years of experience, if the company is promoting him to the next higher position, it is very much acceptable for USCIS to promote his EB-3to EB-2.
I don't think USCIS will not give any shit to anything you are trying.
Once you have approved I-140, that date is your's buddy. Jealousy suckers.
So what you are saying is, everytime you apply for a I-140, all your previous I-140's should be dropped. Is that you want. Do you realize they can not do this as an Admin fix?
So basically you want to get Green card and be happy and everybody else should die in the f***** queue.
WHY DON'T YOU USE THIS F****** ENERGY FOR SUPPORTING (EMAILS, CALLS TO THE SENETAORS) THE RE CAPTURE BILLS.
People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
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superdude
07-18 03:04 PM
This would suck for older priority dates.
My priority date is March, 2002!! Application was delivered to Nebraska on June 15th but the Receipt date is in mid-July.
So all those filers with priority dates after me (did not come across any with PD older than mine) that got their receipt notices before me would jump ahead in line!! Who knows how many years more...
Hopefully they will change their procedure after this fiasco to go by Priority Dates first and then the receipt dates.
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That requires sorting of the application by PD. But the SOP does not mention anywhere about the PD Sorting. I am sorry for you guys.
My priority date is March, 2002!! Application was delivered to Nebraska on June 15th but the Receipt date is in mid-July.
So all those filers with priority dates after me (did not come across any with PD older than mine) that got their receipt notices before me would jump ahead in line!! Who knows how many years more...
Hopefully they will change their procedure after this fiasco to go by Priority Dates first and then the receipt dates.
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That requires sorting of the application by PD. But the SOP does not mention anywhere about the PD Sorting. I am sorry for you guys.
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rameshk75
05-22 03:31 PM
People are very busy since morning looking for a positive news regarding the amendments..there is no time to contribute !!
IV members, try to contribute otherwise nothing will happen without lobbying !!
IV members, try to contribute otherwise nothing will happen without lobbying !!
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khukubindu
01-19 01:06 PM
But I don't have 4 weeks. I have to travel on january 29th.
Another thing is do I need to show on departure do I need to show the AP Approval. If I don't then if I leave US and my friend mail it to my place abroad is that ok as my USCIS online application status check system shows my I-131 approved on January 8 and mailed.
Another thing is do I need to show on departure do I need to show the AP Approval. If I don't then if I leave US and my friend mail it to my place abroad is that ok as my USCIS online application status check system shows my I-131 approved on January 8 and mailed.
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stucklabor
03-09 11:23 AM
Sen says: should make methods, process easy for employment authorization...
They have at least steered off the illegal immig issues for now...:)
Is this employment authorization re: the EADs we get, or employment authorization in general for immigrants?
They have at least steered off the illegal immig issues for now...:)
Is this employment authorization re: the EADs we get, or employment authorization in general for immigrants?
ohmasala1
06-10 12:46 PM
USCIS to Issue Two-Year EAD for I-485 Waiters at End of June 2008
The Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security announced on 06/09/2008 that the DHS would start issuing two-year EAD beginning from end of June 2008 for the I-485 filers. Hooray!
Announcement: "I'm also pleased to announce that we will be extending the validity period of the employment authorization documents that we issue to individuals who are waiting adjustment of status to lawful permit residenture or in colloquial phrase, the green card. Currently, adjustment applications are granted employment authorization documents with only a one year maximum validity. Beginning later this month, we'll start issuing these documents with a two-year validity period for aliens who are waiting adjustment of status if their application is expected to be pending for more than a year. This, again, is eliminating a persistent source of frustration for workers who are here, who have a pending adjustment application but have to go and renew their employment documents every single year. It's going to cut the paperwork there."
The Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security announced on 06/09/2008 that the DHS would start issuing two-year EAD beginning from end of June 2008 for the I-485 filers. Hooray!
Announcement: "I'm also pleased to announce that we will be extending the validity period of the employment authorization documents that we issue to individuals who are waiting adjustment of status to lawful permit residenture or in colloquial phrase, the green card. Currently, adjustment applications are granted employment authorization documents with only a one year maximum validity. Beginning later this month, we'll start issuing these documents with a two-year validity period for aliens who are waiting adjustment of status if their application is expected to be pending for more than a year. This, again, is eliminating a persistent source of frustration for workers who are here, who have a pending adjustment application but have to go and renew their employment documents every single year. It's going to cut the paperwork there."
kamakya
09-15 05:36 PM
The thread started by an asshole like gctest should be deleted. This will divide our community
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