nrakkati
03-21 12:04 AM
>> I-797 dates for Employer 2 and X
>> MAR-2005 and JUL-2006
What is the date range for these two employers?
I-797 notice always has date range for its validity.
Employer 2
MAR-2005 to MAR-2008
Employer X
JUL2006 to JUL-2009
Applied 485 in JUL-2007
Applied EAD in JUL-2007 along with 485. Valid from 09-2007 to 09-2008
Applied another EAD in 2008 before 1st EAD expires, which is good until 2010
thank you.
>> MAR-2005 and JUL-2006
What is the date range for these two employers?
I-797 notice always has date range for its validity.
Employer 2
MAR-2005 to MAR-2008
Employer X
JUL2006 to JUL-2009
Applied 485 in JUL-2007
Applied EAD in JUL-2007 along with 485. Valid from 09-2007 to 09-2008
Applied another EAD in 2008 before 1st EAD expires, which is good until 2010
thank you.
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sanju
03-05 03:58 PM
Ya, I am thinking of starting an outsourcing company which could take this stupid easy work from USCIS and outsource all that work to Thailand. Then I will sponsor work visa for all these bumps at USCIS to work in the outsourced site. Soon you will see me in the court of loo doggs answering his question "how in the world did you outsource all these 'american' jobs"? And my answer would be 'because these guys were all genius and were expert at eastimating the cost of running a query. So we hired bunch of them to represent the company with USCIS."
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I think I know how this works. They would outsource this program to some govt contractor (or ask the govt contractor who is working on their data ) to produce that report which costs (<10$ worth of time/effort, if they have all the data).
If all they want is money ..so be it. I am ready to pony up $50 for this,if we all approach together. But as someone suggested country of chargability is a must.
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I think I know how this works. They would outsource this program to some govt contractor (or ask the govt contractor who is working on their data ) to produce that report which costs (<10$ worth of time/effort, if they have all the data).
If all they want is money ..so be it. I am ready to pony up $50 for this,if we all approach together. But as someone suggested country of chargability is a must.
GCard_Dream
03-21 05:48 PM
What is fair is that we treat everyone here (and everywhere else for that matter) with respect without regard to the country of birth or the EB category. Some are more educated than others, some are more skilled than others, and some are more lucky than others when it comes to green card but what is common to everyone of us is that we are in this mess together. To be honest I don't think we are here to figure out what's best for United States, we are here to get our green card, live the American dream, and make the best out of it.
Therefore, let's not make this GC journey anymore difficult than it already is by fighting amongst ourselves about who is more skilled and who is more deserving. Besides, constant bickering among the IV members will only further divide and alienate more members and won't help us in any way so I suggest that we avoid doing/saying things that has the potential of dividing or alienating members.
Therefore, let's not make this GC journey anymore difficult than it already is by fighting amongst ourselves about who is more skilled and who is more deserving. Besides, constant bickering among the IV members will only further divide and alienate more members and won't help us in any way so I suggest that we avoid doing/saying things that has the potential of dividing or alienating members.
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acecupid
06-09 11:23 AM
Just for information:
Processing center:NSC
Filed AP (paper filing) : May 6th, 2009
AP approval : June, 9th, 2009
Processing center:NSC
Filed AP (paper filing) : May 6th, 2009
AP approval : June, 9th, 2009
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walking_dude
10-18 02:49 PM
Thanks for actively participating and helping us in this effort. I'm sure we'll make this meet a success with our combined team effort.
More volunteers are welcome to join us in helping the meeting preparations. We also greatly appreciate any other help you can provide.
Members who have signed up for the meet re-confirm (basically RSVP), if you haven't already done so (after cagedcactus requested it). It will help CC in arranging snacks and tea . You can PM him or post here.
Need transportation from Lansing to Troy? Send PM (private message) to Bestin, by clicking on his id (on the messages posted by him) in this thread/forum. He has volunteered to accomodate 4 participants on first-come-first-serve basis. If you aren't based in Lansing, but still located somewhere on the way ( b/n Lansing to Troy), he can pick you up and drop you off ( if the detour is reasonable like a few miles). Don't let the lethargy to driving long distance dampen your enthusiam to particpate in an event that will affect your future.
Guys who cannot participate on 10/20 due to any reasons, but interested in future activities - PM or E-mail me. I will add you to the list of invitees for the future activities.
Thanks
Responded back..BTB i dont have any appointments tomorrow.So i ll be at home.Pls dont hesitate to ask for any help.I can try my best
More volunteers are welcome to join us in helping the meeting preparations. We also greatly appreciate any other help you can provide.
Members who have signed up for the meet re-confirm (basically RSVP), if you haven't already done so (after cagedcactus requested it). It will help CC in arranging snacks and tea . You can PM him or post here.
Need transportation from Lansing to Troy? Send PM (private message) to Bestin, by clicking on his id (on the messages posted by him) in this thread/forum. He has volunteered to accomodate 4 participants on first-come-first-serve basis. If you aren't based in Lansing, but still located somewhere on the way ( b/n Lansing to Troy), he can pick you up and drop you off ( if the detour is reasonable like a few miles). Don't let the lethargy to driving long distance dampen your enthusiam to particpate in an event that will affect your future.
Guys who cannot participate on 10/20 due to any reasons, but interested in future activities - PM or E-mail me. I will add you to the list of invitees for the future activities.
Thanks
Responded back..BTB i dont have any appointments tomorrow.So i ll be at home.Pls dont hesitate to ask for any help.I can try my best
delhiguy79
07-18 12:52 PM
I did not find this invalid. But the NSC update from last year also doenst say as how long it was valid. We really need to talk to an attorney.
As for me, I am going to file my I 485 by July 31st if I dont receive the reciept notice from USCIS. We can just show other proofs that it was more than 15 days that we filed our I 140.
In this case we dont know till when the update is valid. so it can't b said that it is invalid also.
so I am planning to wait till Aug 10 to get the receipt notice, otherwise i ll fle myself with the fedex tracking number and the letter from USCIS about the labor approval.
As for me, I am going to file my I 485 by July 31st if I dont receive the reciept notice from USCIS. We can just show other proofs that it was more than 15 days that we filed our I 140.
In this case we dont know till when the update is valid. so it can't b said that it is invalid also.
so I am planning to wait till Aug 10 to get the receipt notice, otherwise i ll fle myself with the fedex tracking number and the letter from USCIS about the labor approval.
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09-12 02:56 PM
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pappu
11-14 08:37 PM
If you have not yet understood the importance of IV, now is the time to ACT.
About IV:
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=35
IV's achievements summarized by Macaca
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=181953&postcount=216
Start participating in your local state chapters. If there is no state chapter, please start one. Please see my weblog for guidance:
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-start-and-maintain-state-chapter.html
Still not convinced that IV has the leadership, look at this picture of Jay in front of the capitol during the IV DC Rally:
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/11/iv-is-this.html
Want to see some DC rally pictures:
http://dcrally.blogspot.com
IV has its own blog:
http://immigrationvoice.blogspot.com
Look around. An IV meet up may be happening in your neighborhood/city.
While most of you were tracking your receipts, FP notices, EADs and APs, IV was working relentlessly to achieve its sole motive: "ERADICATE RETROGRESSION"
The irony of the current state of affairs that it is a long struggle to achieve the motive. We need your support at the grass roots level. "Are you upto it?". As Gatorade says, "IS IT IN YOU?"
"The Time is always right to do the right thing" -MLK,Jr.
I have an EAD, what can go wrong now?
Well, continue to pay $1K per person for EAD/AP every year until you get your GC. You will never have peace of mind that comes with a Permanent Work Permit aka GC.
How do I contact IV?
Contact any of the IV active members and they will direct you. A simple PM is all that you need. Some of the members you can contact are pappu, logiclife, paskal, chandu123, janilsal,needhelp,english_august, franklin.
Telephone: (202) 386-6250
EMail: info AT immigrationvoice.org
Thanks for putting it together.
About IV:
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=35
IV's achievements summarized by Macaca
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=181953&postcount=216
Start participating in your local state chapters. If there is no state chapter, please start one. Please see my weblog for guidance:
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-start-and-maintain-state-chapter.html
Still not convinced that IV has the leadership, look at this picture of Jay in front of the capitol during the IV DC Rally:
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/11/iv-is-this.html
Want to see some DC rally pictures:
http://dcrally.blogspot.com
IV has its own blog:
http://immigrationvoice.blogspot.com
Look around. An IV meet up may be happening in your neighborhood/city.
While most of you were tracking your receipts, FP notices, EADs and APs, IV was working relentlessly to achieve its sole motive: "ERADICATE RETROGRESSION"
The irony of the current state of affairs that it is a long struggle to achieve the motive. We need your support at the grass roots level. "Are you upto it?". As Gatorade says, "IS IT IN YOU?"
"The Time is always right to do the right thing" -MLK,Jr.
I have an EAD, what can go wrong now?
Well, continue to pay $1K per person for EAD/AP every year until you get your GC. You will never have peace of mind that comes with a Permanent Work Permit aka GC.
How do I contact IV?
Contact any of the IV active members and they will direct you. A simple PM is all that you need. Some of the members you can contact are pappu, logiclife, paskal, chandu123, janilsal,needhelp,english_august, franklin.
Telephone: (202) 386-6250
EMail: info AT immigrationvoice.org
Thanks for putting it together.
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piperwarrior
07-17 09:27 PM
Yeah, let's ban everyone. Everyone should rejoice with you, because your body-shop employer won't be able to take advantage of you for much longer...
You should be banned again.
People who feel happy at other people's sorrows don't deserve here. Today in the moment of happiness you only came to spoil the mood and want sympathy from everyone. Your previous posts were VERY offensive. Do not act innocent. I saw them saddistic remarks.
Infact a lot of backlog center people started posting offensive remarks and showed happiness when dates became unavailable. I will never support you guys after what I saw from you as reactions.
You should be banned again.
People who feel happy at other people's sorrows don't deserve here. Today in the moment of happiness you only came to spoil the mood and want sympathy from everyone. Your previous posts were VERY offensive. Do not act innocent. I saw them saddistic remarks.
Infact a lot of backlog center people started posting offensive remarks and showed happiness when dates became unavailable. I will never support you guys after what I saw from you as reactions.
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gk_2000
03-28 07:17 PM
Can you please tell me what is a Green Card.. :)
Now, lets stop all the hate we wer showing and see if somehting good can be done for all.
Glad you asked. Green card means, the ability to award as many greens and reds to anyone on IV. This ability increases as one gets closer to permanent resident status in US.
Now, lets stop all the hate we wer showing and see if somehting good can be done for all.
Glad you asked. Green card means, the ability to award as many greens and reds to anyone on IV. This ability increases as one gets closer to permanent resident status in US.
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nrakkati
03-20 08:36 PM
you never worked for X and has been working w/o break with #2 ... u said, I believe.
Write to USCIS simple explanation and show a proof such as HR letter stating your presence on active payroll continusly for all the term and run it through attorney, if you have. Else put together logically framed chronologically ordered history. Attach W2's for the years and demonstrate un-broken timeline.
If their is nothing to hid or falsify, ... don't worry about anything. Good news is your case is active. People here ( no offense to anyone) will split hairs trying to answer simple issue. Keep it simple and truthfull and nothing adverse will happen.
Yes. Your assumption
"you never worked for X and has been working w/o break with #2 ... u said, I believe"
is correct.
Only thing that I want to point out is - Employer X sponsored my H1B (i do not know it is new H1 or transferred), but never moved from current Employer. Maintained valid status with current employer.
When it comes to immigration stuff, I would not do any 'wrong doing' intentionally, not even as a last option.
Not sure if I crossed the line here (obviously unknowingly) by having H1B with 'employer x' , but I was told it's all legal.
Thanks for your input.
Write to USCIS simple explanation and show a proof such as HR letter stating your presence on active payroll continusly for all the term and run it through attorney, if you have. Else put together logically framed chronologically ordered history. Attach W2's for the years and demonstrate un-broken timeline.
If their is nothing to hid or falsify, ... don't worry about anything. Good news is your case is active. People here ( no offense to anyone) will split hairs trying to answer simple issue. Keep it simple and truthfull and nothing adverse will happen.
Yes. Your assumption
"you never worked for X and has been working w/o break with #2 ... u said, I believe"
is correct.
Only thing that I want to point out is - Employer X sponsored my H1B (i do not know it is new H1 or transferred), but never moved from current Employer. Maintained valid status with current employer.
When it comes to immigration stuff, I would not do any 'wrong doing' intentionally, not even as a last option.
Not sure if I crossed the line here (obviously unknowingly) by having H1B with 'employer x' , but I was told it's all legal.
Thanks for your input.
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mshelat
05-28 01:56 PM
I agree ---- I think the momentum is slowing down...
at least can we not take any legal action for issuing out a rule (you can file MFS and get the stimuls and then amend MFJ) on 04/14/2008??? what about people who filed a long time ago as MFJ?? Because once you filed MFJ, the action is irrevocable!?! In my honest opinion, this stupidity of issuing out a clause the day before filing deadline deserves some "stir"!!
Any news?
at least can we not take any legal action for issuing out a rule (you can file MFS and get the stimuls and then amend MFJ) on 04/14/2008??? what about people who filed a long time ago as MFJ?? Because once you filed MFJ, the action is irrevocable!?! In my honest opinion, this stupidity of issuing out a clause the day before filing deadline deserves some "stir"!!
Any news?
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sri1309
02-09 10:13 PM
To pbojja, your post shows how you may have completely misconstrued my post. I haven't written the post out of frustration of not being EB-1/2 at all. And am I dreaming when I hear you say that good English speaking skills aren't important in the U.S? Maybe I am in another world. I said clearly that the 'fraud' desi firms and their employees have tarnished India's image. They should be removed from the system and we should be in line with 'genuine' cases. What's wrong with that? Where's the unfairness here?
To snathan, I understand your post but I believe the tone should be more friendly and amiable. And I certainly didn't give you any red dots so peace on that front. I don't believe in petty playground politics. Actually I appreciate you reminding people about contributions since they are needed a lot for our efforts.
Also, I can see my profile turned red since people haven't understood the essence of my posts. Very sad situation indeed.
StuckinMuck,
Dont get into other things when high priority issues are to be focussed. Focus on removing country quotas, release the numbers lost, get GCs for 5-10 year waiting folks, get citizenships for anyonne more than 10 years legally in US, project yourself with good things. There can be 100s of bugs in the system, but this is not the time to cleanup.
Focus of projecting good things about us, which are PLENTY.
To snathan, I understand your post but I believe the tone should be more friendly and amiable. And I certainly didn't give you any red dots so peace on that front. I don't believe in petty playground politics. Actually I appreciate you reminding people about contributions since they are needed a lot for our efforts.
Also, I can see my profile turned red since people haven't understood the essence of my posts. Very sad situation indeed.
StuckinMuck,
Dont get into other things when high priority issues are to be focussed. Focus on removing country quotas, release the numbers lost, get GCs for 5-10 year waiting folks, get citizenships for anyonne more than 10 years legally in US, project yourself with good things. There can be 100s of bugs in the system, but this is not the time to cleanup.
Focus of projecting good things about us, which are PLENTY.
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nrakkati
03-20 10:46 PM
Thanks gapala, for your input. will verify it and post it here.
My 'Employer #2' H1B I-94 and 'Employer X' H1B I-94 numbers matches with I-94 number that I got at 'POE'.
Receipt Data is July-2006 for 'Employer X' H1B.
According to Gapala's logic, my H1 is transfer, not NEW.
I am assuming I-94 only changes at 'POE'.
This is what I observed after carefully reviewing my documents:-
If you go out of the country and come back in to US on same H1B, say n times, you will get a different I-94 number each time. but if you apply n H1B's from n employers during your continues stay in USA, you will get same I-94 number. Again, this is my observation and may not be correct.
Experts....please comment on this (wrong or right).
If my above statement is correct, then Gapala's I-94 number logic to differentiate 'new h1b' vs 'transferred h1b' is incorrect.
I think this issue comes down to - 'new H1B & transfer H1B'
Based on my past research, H1B is always NEW. There is nothing called 'transferring H1B', but I am sure Gapala will not agree with me or some other IV members here on this...
Gapala, Can I request the source for your argument(new H1B &Transfer H1B are different.) . Was this your observation from forums or from attorney or articles from murthy.com?
Again, Thanks Gapala, for your time and input.
My 'Employer #2' H1B I-94 and 'Employer X' H1B I-94 numbers matches with I-94 number that I got at 'POE'.
Receipt Data is July-2006 for 'Employer X' H1B.
According to Gapala's logic, my H1 is transfer, not NEW.
I am assuming I-94 only changes at 'POE'.
This is what I observed after carefully reviewing my documents:-
If you go out of the country and come back in to US on same H1B, say n times, you will get a different I-94 number each time. but if you apply n H1B's from n employers during your continues stay in USA, you will get same I-94 number. Again, this is my observation and may not be correct.
Experts....please comment on this (wrong or right).
If my above statement is correct, then Gapala's I-94 number logic to differentiate 'new h1b' vs 'transferred h1b' is incorrect.
I think this issue comes down to - 'new H1B & transfer H1B'
Based on my past research, H1B is always NEW. There is nothing called 'transferring H1B', but I am sure Gapala will not agree with me or some other IV members here on this...
Gapala, Can I request the source for your argument(new H1B &Transfer H1B are different.) . Was this your observation from forums or from attorney or articles from murthy.com?
Again, Thanks Gapala, for your time and input.
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dallasdude
06-01 11:26 AM
One time I travelled on air france, some guy a few rows in front of me tried to grope the hostess. The crew got his information and charged him with misdemeanor. I think the french are pretty sensitive.
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GCKaIntezar
02-13 02:03 PM
Very well responded Jay.
I don't want to write in the forum just for the heck of it, but when I see non-sense posts like the one posted by a "talented leader", I just can't seem to stop. At some time, I just feel its not worth even 2 minutes of my time to read and respond to negative comments, but then I think these negative comments don't create a type of "Grass-root" org that we need. I'm starting to believe that people have no regard to whatever the "Volunteer" IV Core members are doing, they just like to post messages and induce negative discussions and when we feed the trolls, they get excited. So my point is - let's stop that. Let's not feed them - our time, our energy, our ideas.
We need to promote more of "WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER", and each and every one of us "CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE". This can only happen with actions - Get active in State Chapters, post what you are doing there - that will create the sense of belonging and not by responding to every little negative comments that get posted.
Ok enough already.
-Sanjay
I don't want to write in the forum just for the heck of it, but when I see non-sense posts like the one posted by a "talented leader", I just can't seem to stop. At some time, I just feel its not worth even 2 minutes of my time to read and respond to negative comments, but then I think these negative comments don't create a type of "Grass-root" org that we need. I'm starting to believe that people have no regard to whatever the "Volunteer" IV Core members are doing, they just like to post messages and induce negative discussions and when we feed the trolls, they get excited. So my point is - let's stop that. Let's not feed them - our time, our energy, our ideas.
We need to promote more of "WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER", and each and every one of us "CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE". This can only happen with actions - Get active in State Chapters, post what you are doing there - that will create the sense of belonging and not by responding to every little negative comments that get posted.
Ok enough already.
-Sanjay
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anai
02-13 08:53 AM
A quick net-worth calculator:
Wakes up and decides more action is needed -------------> +10 pionts
Considers two options:
Become more active at IV and help shape and lead effort ---> worth +100 pts
Open a new venue for influencing our future ---------------> Also worth +100 pts
Finally settles on an easy three-pronged third way:
Trash current volunteer leaders ----------------------------> -500 points
Offer no new ideas on what can be done--------------------> -200 points
Use words such as "zapata" in a post -----------------------> -50 points.
Here's how you can say sorry: Add a mew member (or contribute a dollar) to IV for every -10 points you have earned.
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
Wakes up and decides more action is needed -------------> +10 pionts
Considers two options:
Become more active at IV and help shape and lead effort ---> worth +100 pts
Open a new venue for influencing our future ---------------> Also worth +100 pts
Finally settles on an easy three-pronged third way:
Trash current volunteer leaders ----------------------------> -500 points
Offer no new ideas on what can be done--------------------> -200 points
Use words such as "zapata" in a post -----------------------> -50 points.
Here's how you can say sorry: Add a mew member (or contribute a dollar) to IV for every -10 points you have earned.
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
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weilai
06-22 03:57 PM
My wife had a H1B working for company A from 08/2003 to 07/2005 (from I-94) and she filed another H1B application to work for company B in 05/2004. She got the notice, stopped working for company A and started working for company B. However, she never got the aprroval notice for the second H1B application. Actually this case is currently still pending. She worked for company B until 07/2005 which is the expiration date of the first H1B. She changed to F2 later in 07/2005. I was wondering if there is any problem about status or employment authorization for this period of time from 08/2003 to 07/2005.
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verma
02-20 06:03 PM
What happens if we don't have 25000 letters?
I see that we're way behind and only 10 days left.
I see that we're way behind and only 10 days left.
GCwaitforever
06-19 04:33 PM
See the bold text. Because the bill is yanked out, amendments are added to the bill and now it is going to be put back as a new bill.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/2007legislation_2.cfm
The Senate's Second Secret Immigration Bill
by The Heritage Foundation
FYI
For weeks, Americans were told that there are only two options for dealing with the nation's illegal immigration problem: stay with the status quo or accept a "grand bargain"--a tenuous behind-closed-doors deal, first made public by The Heritage Foundation, which contained nearly 800 pages of flawed policies. In the face of overwhelming criticism from all sides, this legislation was withdrawn from the Senate.
Now, an altogether new bill (S. 1639) has been introduced by Senators Ted Kennedy and Arlen Specter. It seems to incorporate the previous legislation, with some amendments. After it is read into the Senate calendar on Wednesday, the Majority Leader will be able to proceed to consider this legislation anew at any time; debate is likely to follow later this week, with a final vote very soon thereafter.
This schedule will afford lawmakers even less time for consideration and deliberation than they had before. It will deny them the various procedures long associated with America's deliberative lawmaking process--hearings, testimony, committee debate and amendments, floor debate, and the possibility of further amendments. Instead, according to reports, this legislation will proceed based on an altogether new and expedited procedure designed for the sole purpose of forcing the bill's many ill-conceived policies over legitimate minority objections.
As it has before, for the sake of open deliberation and public education, The Heritage Foundation is making this legislation publicly available to encourage widespread debate and discussion. Heritage Foundation analysts will be reading this legislation and considering its implications--as will everyone outside the confines of the narrow group that conceived it--as quickly as possible.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/2007legislation_2.cfm
The Senate's Second Secret Immigration Bill
by The Heritage Foundation
FYI
For weeks, Americans were told that there are only two options for dealing with the nation's illegal immigration problem: stay with the status quo or accept a "grand bargain"--a tenuous behind-closed-doors deal, first made public by The Heritage Foundation, which contained nearly 800 pages of flawed policies. In the face of overwhelming criticism from all sides, this legislation was withdrawn from the Senate.
Now, an altogether new bill (S. 1639) has been introduced by Senators Ted Kennedy and Arlen Specter. It seems to incorporate the previous legislation, with some amendments. After it is read into the Senate calendar on Wednesday, the Majority Leader will be able to proceed to consider this legislation anew at any time; debate is likely to follow later this week, with a final vote very soon thereafter.
This schedule will afford lawmakers even less time for consideration and deliberation than they had before. It will deny them the various procedures long associated with America's deliberative lawmaking process--hearings, testimony, committee debate and amendments, floor debate, and the possibility of further amendments. Instead, according to reports, this legislation will proceed based on an altogether new and expedited procedure designed for the sole purpose of forcing the bill's many ill-conceived policies over legitimate minority objections.
As it has before, for the sake of open deliberation and public education, The Heritage Foundation is making this legislation publicly available to encourage widespread debate and discussion. Heritage Foundation analysts will be reading this legislation and considering its implications--as will everyone outside the confines of the narrow group that conceived it--as quickly as possible.
gk_2000
03-28 09:01 PM
Let us disagree on this, whats that supposed to be a back-handed negative comment?
not so complex.. I was referring to this dot concept. Never heard of that anywhere LOL
not so complex.. I was referring to this dot concept. Never heard of that anywhere LOL
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